The Botham Jean Murder Verdict and Its Complex Emotional Aftermath | The Daily Show


If you’ve been keeping up
with the news, you’ve probably seen this story
coming out of, uh, Texas that’s-that’s blown up. Um, and it’s been taking place
for a while. It’s been the-the trial of the
police officer, Amber Guyger. Have you saw that? Right? The police officer who, um, said she-she accidentally walked
into a man’s apartment in her building
and then she thought that he was the intruder and she shot him dead. And I remember
when this story happened. It was a wild story off the bat. It was– You know what I mean?
‘Cause it was already crazy. It’s like you walk
into a wrong apartment and you shot the person.
What were you doing? What– You know? And so the trial
has been going on. And the first thing that was–
that was a little weird for me was the judge allowed
the defense to use what they call
the castle doctrine in America. So they said
they would allow the defense that she was protecting herself because she thought
it was her house, which already was,
like, weird for me. ‘Cause I–
Like, the castle doctrine is-is, like,
a very strict law in America, but-but, I-I mean,
I get it, fundamentally. If you’re in your house,
you can do whatever you need
to protect yourself. But this was interesting,
where the judge was like, “No, you can…
We allowed the defense “that you thought
you were in your house, so you shot somebody
in their house.” In their house? I was just like,
“But that’s… But it’s not your house.” ‘Cause then you can just think
you’re in your house anywhere. -(laughter)
-Like, it’s just… It’s… So really, that was weird.
And, you know, I was worried. I honestly was worried,
this was gonna be another one of those cases in America
where justice didn’t get served. Because it seemed like a fairly,
you know, black and white– excuse the pun– case. Um, and-and then,
the verdict was handed down, and the jury did
find her guilty. But what has followed since has
been a really interesting story. And we actually…
we actually have a clip. It’s-it’s…
it’s a really complicated story, but this is… this is basically
what went down. The white former
Dallas police officer convicted of murdering her black neighbor
has learned her fate. Yesterday,
Amber Guyger was sentenced to ten years in prison for the murder of Botham Jean. But it was what Jean’s brother
did after the sentencing that brought the court
to a standstill. Can I give her a hug, please? WOMAN:
18-year-old Brandt Jean forgave Amber Guyger who’d just been sentenced
to ten years in prison for killing
his older brother Botham. At the end of the hearing, Judge Tammy Kemp gave a bible
to Guyger and embraced her, as well. Amber Guyger will be eligible
for parole in five years. No justice, no peace! WOMAN:
Some outside the courtroom thought the sentence
was too lenient. So that’s basically… the-the story as it stands. And it’s interesting,
’cause I… Like, I sat with this…
with this story, and I talked
to my friends about it. And it’s so funny how many… you know, like,
how many complicated feelings there are in and around it. First and foremost, a thousand
kudos and just, like… Honestly,
I-I admire the compassion of the Jean family. At the same time, though, I understood
why so many people were angered by that moment,
’cause this thing has really, you know, blown up online. People saying,
like, they were angry that she was getting hugs
from the judge, and they were angry that she was
getting hugs from the family. And some people… Like,
a lot of people are fighting about this right now,
’cause they’re like, “Why were they hugging her?
She murdered a man. Why is she getting hugs?” And the other side is like,
“Yes, but they’re forgiving her. She still goes to jail,
but it’s about forgiveness.” And I just… I sat with it,
and I have… I have conflicting feelings,
but I… but I… I think I understand
what is happening, you know, in so many different ways with-with how people are looking
at the story. On the one… one hand,
you can’t deny that people feel like
ten years– five, actually–
is not a lot of time to be given for taking
another human being’s life, especially if you’re found
guilty of murder. Do you know what I mean? Like, there’s people
in jail in America -for doing far lesser crimes,
you know? -WOMAN: Exactly. Whether they’ve been,
you know, charged with, like, drug trafficking where they just
had a certain amount of drugs, and they were assumed
to be drug traffickers, or, you know, people where
they said it was violent crimes, and it was assault. But they’re spending more time
in jail. And then,
this seems like another case of the system preferring
a certain type of person who looks a certain type of way, who fits a certain type
of narrative. Ten years, five years.
I get why people are angry. I get why people are also like,
“This is another case of, like, white women tears
doing their magic.” You know? ‘Cause, like, that’s…
I mean, you know the myth. It’s, like, white women tears,
just, like, anything. Like, traffic stops. Anything. White woman cries,
and people are like, -“All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.”
-(laughter) Yeah. And-and it’s… it’s true. Like, it’s a joke, but it’s also
true at the same time. It’s, like,
white women throughout history have been very good
at, like, stepping away from, like, the thing
just with their tears, you know? Where it’ll be, like,
you’ll be… Everyone looks at the Klan. Everyone forgets that there’s,
like, wives of the Klan. Do you know what I mean?
People are like, “Those Klan!” And then, like,
the wives can sometimes be like, “I-I didn’t know
my husband was…” (laughter) It’s like, “But you helped him
put the sleet on every night.” (crying): “I thought he just
liked Halloween. I’m sorry!” (laughter) And that’s what a lot of people
feel like in these instances. They feel like-like those
white tears are really felt, whereas the tears
of many other people, people of different races, people of, you know, other
genders aren’t felt as-as much. And… and I think,
you know, that, like, all of it stems
from the conversations in and around race in America. You can’t… you can’t avoid it. People are looking at a story
of a white woman who shot a black man
in his house, who did nothing,
who was just in his house. And people were angry, and I understand why
so many people are angry, because they’re like,
“She doesn’t deserve hugs. She deserves to lose her life
the way she took a life.” And I’m not speaking
for everybody. I know maybe I’m speaking for
myself and some of my friends. But I-I feel like
the anger actually comes from people feeling like
that is the level of empathy everybody should receive
in a court, you know? Everybody should have a judge
look at them like a human being. Everybody in society
should be treated with a level of compassion. They should still be punished
if they’ve committed a crime, but we should still look at them
as human beings. And yet, this narrative
doesn’t seem to be afforded to black people in America,
especially by the news. ‘Cause if you look
at all the news stories about this, they do paint it… Like, they go,
“It’s a beautiful moment where she’s hugged by everyone,
and so… But it’s, like, they don’t use
that same editorial when a young black child
is going to jail, you know? They don’t go,
“This young black man, “who was recruited into a gang
and had no other choices, look at this poor…”
They just go, like, “He was sentenced
and he was found guilty,” and that’s the story. As if that is what’s expected. You know what I mean? It almost feels like
if you’re a black person who commits a crime
and goes to jail, well, that-that’s
what black people do. But if you’re a white person
who commits a crime and goes to jail, it’s like,
“Aw, man, what a disaster story.” They tell you about
the human being behind the act. This story showed you
the exact opposite example. This young black man who was doing his own thing,
he got shot. They told you that he had
a history with weed. The news told you that. Why? They always tell you that. “This man was shot
in a traffic stop. Now, he did have
an assault case ten years…” What does that have to do
with this traffic stop? You know what I mean.
What, was the cop traveling through time to punishing him?
What is that…? And I think that’s… that’s
what people need to understand, is that, like,
some of the narratives that we tell and share about
what’s happening in the world are so much more powerful
than we actually think they are. You think it’s just
on the surface, but… what a lot of people
are seeing here is… is a reinforcing of an idea. But I think the mistake
we shouldn’t make as people is that we shouldn’t
necessarily jump to… we want people
like Amber Guyger to spend more time in jail
and the most time in jail. I think what we should be asking is for the same level
of compassion and saying, “Hey, I don’t want anyone
to spend excessive amounts of time
in jail.” And so the same way a white shooter
is disarmed peacefully, the same way a white murderer can get a hug in a courtroom
and sympathy, the same way a young shooter
is spoken about as a human being because he is white, you would hope that same level
of compassion and empathy would be applied
to black people. That’s all it is.

100 comments

  1. You nailed it trevor.. i saw that video and i was disgusted. 5 yrs in jail for killing someone in their own house..So pissed. Justice in america is for the select few.

  2. 10 year sentence and eligible for parole after 5. I pray someone shanks that racist pecker-head white bitch to death within 5 hours after arriving to her cell! Lastly, why are some Black people so damn forgiving of, fucked up in the head, whites when we all know they would't shed a tear for us! Amber Guyger's fake tears said it all! Her face looked emotional but no tears fell from her eyes because she is that wicked!

  3. the test would be whether a black person walking into a white neighbour’s house would be able to use the same defence and get ten years and get forgiveness. do not believe the sentence is too lenient, however it should be lenient towards blacks too

  4. She was probably high on drug. White people feel like they own the world and can get away with any crime when they are high on drug. Power drunk woman.

  5. Nah we want the punishment and for Black people to stop showing this undying forgiveness to racist white people.

    That courtroom was a goddamn minstrel show.

    When a white person gets off lite we all must take this thoughtful introspective but when they hammer a Black person. They say they'll reform it one day.

    Botham's brother is a damn clown hugging that racist piece of shit excuse for a cop.

  6. I'm sorry, I had no idea what this was until just now, but I absolutely cannot get over the idea that this woman went into the WRONG apartment, saw someone she MUST have recognized as her neighbor, then shot him. There are so many factors here that make it impossible for that to be an accident. She was even a trained police officer on top of that? Unless she was wasted out of her mind (and thus should absolutely not have had a gun), there is no explanation for that happening. It being an accident is IMPOSSIBLE without claiming a catastrophic level of negligence. Noah is making good points and all, but I cannot get over the base idea of this even happening in the first place.

  7. What about the black man who was given 45 years for killing a police dog?!! Trevor's being so soft we need more than just compassion. #JUSTICE

  8. Find a steady tree and make sure its really steady and stiff where it will last for thousands of years and hang her from it and make sure its in public.

  9. I didn't think the 'women can cry their way out of anything' had a race element, but what do I know.

    This story is different than a lot of other recent stories because this one doesn't appear to have been made up. It appears that she really did think it was her apartment and it wasn't just part of a cover-up to get away with murder like too many other stories are. Although, either way there do need to be punishments for being an irresponsible gun owner and killing someone no matter the reason.

  10. Hugs from family are fine, but not from the judge.
    Clearly brings out the inherent bias which could have led to lenient sentence handed down.

  11. I respect what you are saying Travor but their is never going to be any justice for black people in America. First of all black people always lock their doors when they go into there homes or apartments. Why was the door ajar in the first place. There is a back story here and to top it off the one witness his neighbor one day after her sentencing was shot to deaf in his parking lot. White man Justice Black man greef.

  12. the bottom line is we're going into 2020 and nothing about racism has changed since the god damn civil war. And it won't. I know people will hate me but if it were my brother she shot? I'd shoot the bitch myself. I'll get the chair but she won't be out in 5 years or less for good behavior and get her record expunged.

  13. America is a barbaric place where people shoot each other regularly. Even if someone is stealing your things, you would just shoot him without any threats? I wonder how many people got shot by her “in the line” of duty

  14. And now the star witness against the female police officer was murdered. He didn't even want to testify, a reluctant witness but he did. He seemed like a good dude, did what was right as much as he didn't want to get involved and then everyone and their dog hugs this bitch that murdered that dude. Now he's dead, related to this case? Who knows, but I wouldn't doubt it.

  15. THE JUDGE WOULDN'T ALLOW HER TO BE PHOTOGRAPHED IN HANDCUFFS. But she let her be photographed while SHE HUGGED HER. What part of that seems appropriate professionally?! She is literally a convicted murderer who killed a man in his own home!

  16. The witness….shot in the mouth.. i think that was a message sent. Open your mouth…get shot in the mouth. I even think the brother was threatened into forgiving her…prompting the judge to give a shorter sentence. Of course the shooter of the witness will never be found. It'll be a cold case file in a week or so.

  17. This is so deep … I agree with every word, Trevor. … And I'm a Syrian who lost his home, his friends, and his freedom.

  18. When a friend told me about this incident the first I thought I had was why was a police officer so on edge and trigger happy in the first place

  19. I agree with everything Trevor Noah said but at the same time this woman any police officer any white person any person that carries a firearm licensed by the city or state that they work in who gets drunk intoxicated or on drugs choose a person just because we still do not know why only gets 10 years when any person that is black Latino Asian or just not white will be sentenced to 25 to life for having a ounce of weed on them you tell me what's wrong with that scenario because he is trying to be The Peacemaker we don't need peacemakers we need people in his position to call out all of the judges these prosecutors and these lawyers she got 10 years with possibility of parole in five cold-blooded killing a man in his own home because she was drunk I'm a black man I work with a lot of different races in the industrial in so I'm held accountable for everything I do and everything I say and I've been threatened with more time than she has gotten for just speaking out so therefore this is b***** I am verbally texting so please forgive the grammatical errors because I had more to say than I can text

  20. Your insights on social and political affairs are penetrating. It is a voice of reason that I not only enjoy but also appreciate as it is becoming a rare quantity these days. I respect your looking for contrarian arguments with sincerity and curiosity, assessing a case from all angles and being able to discuss the issues with people of different views with a sharp and cool head.

    While I take the point of systemic bias against black people in the judiciary and economic systems set up by the majority white, I also caution of our not falling for reverse discrimination naratives. One method I use to gain clarity of a situation without being unduely biased by racial and gender narratives is to imagine the people in the same scenario without any reference to ethnic or gender groups.

    In this case, individual A enters individual B's apartment thinking it is his and shot his neighbor. (1) What would be a fair verdict? I have a hard time convincinig myself it is murder (which requires premeditation) with the arguments based on A's prior conversation with his lover and A's entering the apartment without following proper protocol. Manslaughter is more befitting given the circumstances. (2) Should castle doctrine be allowed in this case? There is ground for it if one can prove without reasonable doubts A sincerely believes it is his home. One may contend permitting so will allow other perpetuators to misuse it as a pretense. A counter-argument to this contention is that opportunity for misuse is not a valid reason to veto a rule, but rather a cause for raising the bar in evaluating the evidence. By the same logic, social welfare are sometimes misused, should we therefore terminate the program? (3) What is a fair sentence? The answer to which needs to be based on sentencing of similar cases in the past, not based on what we personally think is just. Fair means equal treatment based on facts, not personal opinions.

  21. No one kills their neighbors!!
    How weird you see them everyday everytime. They r ones who take care of our house when you r not around.

  22. Truth. Trevor Noah you said it. We need to treat each other as humans. End of. Love You for who you are a voice the world needs. Respect.

  23. The walking into the wrong apartment thing actually happens… I live in an apartment building where the floors aren't visibly numbered. So I have my above and below neighbor's guests, quiet regularly walk into my apartment… It's not a problem though, since in Germany we don't carry guns…

  24. Man shoots police dog: 45 years

    Police shoots man: 10years 5years parole and hugs.

    And someone says there is no privilege, someone tells me there is police accountability.. Lol what a joke.

  25. Trevor… respect man..masive respect for thinking the other way round…ur opinions are great packets of knowledge for me…good luck man..god bless

  26. Am all for kindness and forgiveness but the truth is the perception of the black person is that they are not worthy of humanness! We are all walking on shells trying to talk of the brutality black people face at the same time make white people fell less judged. But the truth is white people are assumed to be worthy of forgiveness and black people are not!! Those are facts!!

  27. I'm white. Live in Oakland. Leftist. "Radical" views about social justice (I.E. i believe in it, which is some how radical). Prepared to be very skeptical of this take. But I appreciate the overall point. The change needed isn't to shift who we punish to an excessive degree, it's to grant humanity to those so long denied it.

  28. FUCK hugging her. So damn tired of US being the better ppl. She should have gotten 25 to life. If she was a he and that he was black….he would he under the jail. Plus, she killed your brother. That turn the other cheek shit and forgiveness is old. She will at some point forget or stop being affected by her killing. The family will NEVER forget. How many birthdays will he miss.

  29. This is the kind of story that makes me so very glad to have Trevor. So much nuance, so broad, and so complicated, and yet he still manages to find some commonality and truth in all the mess without discounting others’ views. Brilliant and thought-provoking

  30. Obviously this was a tragic incident with no "happy" ending, but personally I would say that the sentence of 10 years was fair. Now if her getting life would bring back Botham, then by all means give her life, but that is not an option, so at least in due time she can(most likely) return back to a good, productive tax paying citizen. I think that most people that wanted a harsher sentence wanted one because she was white or he was black or she was a cop, but the truth is the average time someone spends in prison for murder in the United States is 16 years, so given the circumstances I think 10 is reasonable. Now there are plenty of people in prison now, who I would say deserve a second chance,(and hope they get it) and if you believe that as well, then you should be glad Amber is getting one too, as the better way is to show justice AND mercy to those that deserve it, instead of making an example of someone because of racial injustices that may have happened in the past. Wish nothing but the best for the families affected by this incident.

  31. Well… now his witness has been shot dead. In the parking lot of the same apartment complex…🤔 something isn't adding up

  32. Wow! Fuck the american justice system! That fucken cunt got away with murder. I hope someone shoots her in her home

  33. So I saw a post about it on Instagram where they both pictured side by side. Her mugshot and his photo and a guy actually had the balls to say oh now why her picture is a mug shot and his a smiling portrait isn't that racism. Hers is a mug shot because she IS a criminal. White privilege isn't a thing they say. Bullshit I say.

  34. I’m not going to speak about the sentence or what the judge did: these are very difficult matters. I just want to say how much I admire the brother. Emotionally and psychologically, forgiving her does much more benefit to him than to her. It’s not even a religious thing for me. It shows incredible personal strength and empathy, regardless of whether she deserves it. He’s my hero and my heart goes out to him and his family.

  35. But it was black people in the court showing her the empathy…. This wasn't just some random white woman. This was a COP! When have they not gotten more lenient sentences than their civilian counterparts?

  36. Yes, it’s clearly another blue on black incident and a disgusting display of our injustice system which won’t get fixed with Republicans in power. For me the story shares a glimpse into the character of Saint Lucians. In my travels I have found them to be the most socially well balanced peoples I have ever met. I’m not surprised by their display of humanity because I’ve seen before how humanity is so dear to them.

  37. Prisons are made, not just for punishment. They are made, to protect society from dangerous People.
    This police woman is not a threat. She obviously regrets it, and she is so shocked, that she cant ever do this mistake again.
    So, there cant be any justice, nothing can repair that damage, that loss. But everything she can do, is doing other good things and protect people (well, thats her job). And she cant do anything of this, while she is in prison.

  38. Please stop speaking emotionally Just answer me, if it was a black man killed the white girl would he be lock up for 5 years?? + hot hug

  39. I don’t even understand how she didn’t get that she wasn’t in her own home like? How? Everything smells different looks different the doors opens differently ..?

  40. It’s about making amends and not driving yourself crazy over the loss of a loved one, and it’s not hard to go crazy.

  41. I remember a clip of a judge who knew of the black man back in highschool which had the same compassion.
    But thats all I know, still haven't heard of something like it ever since.

  42. He keeps leaving out the fact that she used to date Mr. Gene and she knew where his apartment was so easy intentionally went in and killed him there’s a difference Trevor you keep leaving out the fact that she knew the man that she killed because she used to date him

  43. Somebody walked into somebody else’s house and killed them… and got 5-10 years. I understand forgiveness, but if someone walked into my house and shot me, and killed me, my family should never walk over and embrace them. Forgive her so that hate doesn’t consume you, but she still took me away from you. She should suffer. For more than 5-10 years in protected custody.

  44. Hugging is not something that's riling me up, but at least sentence her for Life Time then hug/kiss her(whatever) coz she doesn't have any mental health problem, entering someone else house and shooting, I mean what the hell happened to Miranda rights of an individual!!!

  45. Please do a video ONE OF THE WITNESSES WAS MUDER AFTER HE TESTIFIED! We need to get this information out they are killing the people that testified!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

  46. She is guiltY
    Facts
    She did draw her gun
    1)But she did not noticed (A conscious human would notice where he/she is)
    2)More importantly where she was coming from that she had a gun with her.
    3)she had something difference with her home ?
    4)She entered into into home where she was unaware of how many people there might be (you call 911)

  47. They just killed the neighbor who testified…🗣😭😭😭😭😭😭
    My Stuuuuuuupid poeple…they can hug allllll of them!!!SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!! #OUTRAGEOUS

  48. How can you not recognise that you're in someone else's apartment and then your first instinct is pulling a gun and shooting an unarmed man? True testimony to how cops in usa are trained. They're just trained to kill as fast as possible, especially if it's a black person.
    And that's in unlikely case shes not lying

  49. Nope, it’s all about divide & conquer baby. Whatever the elite can do to divide us up, whether it’s race, gender, religion, or social status, the rich and powerful will use it against us. The news ain’t gonna change a thang about reporting race differently.

  50. I often think about this murdered man's last thoughts and his level of fear realizing he was going to die in his own home by a person sworn to protect him. Tho any guilt-demons his killer has may have to take a back seat to her panic of both being a cop in prison, and of being a white woman with a ridiculous excuse for justification of killing a black man.

  51. I'm struggling to understand how she did not realize that she was entering in a wrong apartment, how do you not recognize your own place? This reminds me of the story of Oscar Pistorios who shot and killed his girlfriend and claimed that he thought she was an intruder

  52. But how do you change a system without the rage? People must continue to speak up about the unjust cases that get dismissed so quickly. Corrupt police should be held accountable for their actions, learn how to own up to their own crimes like any adult should.

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