Is Shade Cloth Counterproductive to Plant Growth & More Organic Gardening Q&A

45 comments

  1. Jerry Brust, UME Vegetable IPM Specialist at the University of Delaware found in a 5 year study that shade cloth use increased yields by 25-50%. Let’s try *science* next time.

  2. Shade cloths come in a wide variety of shades, from 10% to 90% and it can therefore be tailored to suit your needs. If you live in a hot climate like I do, shadecloth is essential to MAXIMIZING your yields.

  3. Its middle of summer in Australia, it's hard to keep soil cool, even the water is always warm, whether i get it from the tap, pond or tank. Its basically been a heatwave the last few weeks. Any tips? Mainly concerned with my tomato and capsicums. Capsicums are scalding and tomato leaves are curling.

  4. I think you kinda full of , well you know. Don't get confuse with the full sun and the heat. 6 hours of full sun at 75 degrees. Vs 6 hours of full sun at 110'. Big differences. Shade cloth reduces the heat. I guarantee you'll use shade cloth sooner of later.

  5. Sorry, but you are wrong. In the desert it is too hot for plants, that is why plants don't grow there naturally. Cooling the ground is not enough. If you can get trees established, it is great to use them for shade. But if you are just getting established, shade cloth is the only way. Also, shade cloth is not just for light/heat, it also protects against the dehydrating wind. Plants grow best between 75-85 F. and that is your target. You may think you can "just throw your plants out there", but in some climates that is just not possible, and your plants will just die. You just lost a lot of credibility here. Learn to be flexible and use what works. You are not pragmatic, just ignorant.

  6. Albuquerque, New Mexico at 5000 to 6000 feet, the plants will burn in the middle of summer. Even the "full sun" plants. It is best to plant in an area where there is half sun and half shade.

  7. I live in Austin, TX and unfortunately don't have any large trees or natural shade structures in my garden. Consequently, I have 12-14 of direct sun and summer temperatures that reach over 100 degrees. With the exception of okra, eggplant, and chilies, my garden comes to a grinding halt during the summer. With a shade cloth I'm able to get tomatoes all throughout the summer. Even the heat tolerant plants need to be watered constantly otherwise they'll die.

  8. He's just being practical. Use shade cloth if you have to. Do you have to? What he doesn't talk about is WATER CONSUMPTION, UV, and climate control. Climate control for plant growing is a science. Not an opinion like BEST? or FOR OR AGAINST. If you need a simple answer go to church?

  9. Helpful video, thanks again for your fiver consult from a couple months ago. That's a nice backdrop behind you

  10. You don't know what shade cloth is. My plants are cooking in the sun. I need to cool them down or growing plants is a waste of time and money.

  11. PS: if you've ever been to Australia, you will get sunburnt in 2 hours. UV warnings are at "extreme" for virtually all summer, and some of Autumn. So to expect your plants will be ok with that is naive. Shade cloth is $50 to protect your valued plants. It's a no brainer.

  12. I'm annoyed by this sentiment, because the idea that "it needs to grow naturally"
    Quick fact, not every crop we try and grow is suited to our exact climate. We try and emulate a great environment to grow the plants we love. We add shade, we germinate indoors, we add specific fertilisers, etc. So somehow a shade cloth is the devil, wtf? I agree with a lot of his experience, but there is a lot of hoodoo getting thrown around as well.

  13. I lost interest to much time promoting yourself in the first few minutes instead of being informative to the subject.

  14. you should really learn what shade cloth is for before giving advices, some comments down here are good examples on how and when to use it

  15. What about using shadecloth in a greenhouse to control the temperature?….In mine it can get up to 130 degrees in the summer with no shadecloth.

  16. I just rigged up a couple old sheets to try to extend the time frame on my lettuce in the heatwave we're having. Seems to help cool it off a lot. When it cools back off I'll take it back off. 

  17. Bottom line is that the crops I use the most – kale and swiss chard, will burn up at the start of summer in Denver. By using 50% shade crop I have them all summer long. This video should have explained more clearly that it is appropriate for some crops and some locations (not for root crops.) A lot of talking, not too much information.

  18. The roots of Kava (or Kava Kava), a tropical plant grown primarily in the Western Pacific, can be used to produce a sedative/stress reducing effect… allegedly without affecting mental acuity. The roots of Valerian can also be used to produce a sedative effect and reduce anxiety… it's frequently been used to treat insomnia.

  19. White shade cloth raised beds works well to start seeds under because they will not be burned by the sun and will still photosynthesize along with keeping the soil cool.

  20. Plants are solar powered, so sun is good. But too much sun is bad even for plants, try 2 beds, one with, one without. In your area with all things equal, one is bound to be better for you.

  21. Shading plants for a short period of time before harvest increases chlorophyll production… your greens will be greener and sweeter… this is, in particular, how they process the Gyokuro version of green tea.

  22. I don't agree with any of this for my kind of desert (in Australia). We have no trees. In summer even tomatoes die unless they are under 50% shade cloth. And it reduces the amount of water necessary which is actually more environmentally friendly than watering extra to cool the plants down.

  23. Yeah, I'm in the caribbean… most of my tomato varieties take a beating if I leave them in full sun. Moringa, Roselle, passion fruit, bananas all love full sun, so I'll plant my tomatoes in their partial shade.

  24. -Change for the needs of the plant. Do not change to the needs of yourself. Great motto to garden and to live by.. Thanks Benjamin

  25. Thanks, John, for the great info you provide to all us viewers! Been very helpful to me in my gardening and on my channel as well. I don't use shade cloth myself, but I know people who live in intense, how growing conditions and it can be helpful. I like to grow lettuce in pots in the summer, that way I can move it into the shade when it gets too hot.

  26. HEY PHIL from Havasu. I can help your garden.. I've been growing food here in Bullhead City for over 15 years, I'm also a master composter. You need to concentrate on your soils needs. You won't believe what I started with, and I didn't buy a single thing from a store, its all handmade soil.. Start composting, save all the leaves you can, grass clippings from the neighbors, etc., and go from there.. Let me know if I can help, just text me

  27. PS, I like how you provide the pro's and con's of this topic.. I grow food in this location for many years before resorting to using shade cloth, and I need to say, I wish I would have installed this shade system years ago, because its really made a difference in my garden..
    THANK YOU JONH… Keep up the good work

  28. Shade Cloth USAGE.. HOT, DRY, HIGH SOIL TEMPS! I grow food in the Lower Mohave Desert, its hotter here then Vegas by far, I use mulch intensively to protect my soil form the sun "because" HIGH SOIL temps KILLS your veggies NOT the sun! PLUS, the shade cloth allows me to work in the garden, if need be, during the hottest parts of the day. Using shade not only protects my skin, and keeps soil temps down, allows me to grow food longer, or plant sooner, in this intense desert environment…

  29. Hey John… Thank you for you Ft. Myers plug. I live 10 minutes from there in Lehigh Acres and I am planning to visit ECHO very very soon so I can purchase perennial vegetables. I have a future vision to expand my garden, but I'm taking baby steps 'cause I'm a newbie (brown thumb), LOL. Anyways, if you do plan on visiting again can you let us know? I'd love to run into you when I go to ECHO

  30. John – This year I discover Greek columnar basil (Wal Mart carries the Bonnie brand plants). It's leaves are just a tad more leathery than the Italian variety, but the flavor is really there. This basil resists the heat and does not seem to require as much watering. It also resists flowering. So it is perfect for growing here in the high desert (30 miles East of Reno) in summer.

  31. John – LIKE THE VIDEOS A LOT. I live 30 miles east of Reno in the high desert and my sweet potatoes, planted in a big plastic tub,(set up like a grow box) are growing very well. My soil mix is 48% peat moss, 48% bagged compost and 4% sand. If I were to do this again I would add 20% vermiculite to the peat moss/copmpost for better drainage.

Leave a Reply

(*) Required, Your email will not be published